{"id":51,"date":"2006-08-21T05:09:00","date_gmt":"2006-08-21T11:09:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/librariansmatter.com\/blog\/folksomic-and-synchronic\/"},"modified":"2006-08-21T05:09:00","modified_gmt":"2006-08-21T11:09:00","slug":"folksomic-and-synchronic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/librariansmatter.com\/blog\/2006\/08\/21\/folksomic-and-synchronic\/","title":{"rendered":"Folksomic and Synchronic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"color: rgb(102, 0, 204);font-family:arial;\" >Last night, I listened to <a href=\"http:\/\/talk.talis.com\/archives\/2006\/07\/the_library_20_4.html\">a podcast<\/a> from from Talis of members of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.talis.com\/tdn\/node\/1329\">Library 2.0 Gang<\/a> discussing tagging,  folksomies and libraries. You can <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/talk.talis.com\/archives\/twt20060726-L2Gang-Folksonomy.mp3\">Download the MP3<\/a>  <span style=\"color: rgb(102, 0, 204);font-family:arial;\" >here. I&#8217;d already written this post before a couple of coincidental things happened. More on that later.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: rgb(102, 0, 204);font-family:arial;\" ><br \/>\nI&#8217;ve been waiting to hear librarians talking about social tagging ever since I poked my duck like beak into Library 2.0. I particularly wanted to hear where our traditional cataloguing tools might fit. I wasn&#8217;t disappointed. Paul Miller did make the point that it was 40 minutes into the total 45 before authorities were discussed.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/librariansmatter.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/blogger\/blogger\/5423\/2997\/1600\/greenbusking.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;\" src=\"https:\/\/librariansmatter.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/blogger\/blogger\/5423\/2997\/400\/greenbusking.jpg\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: rgb(51, 153, 153);\">Street performers &#8211; Australia (LCSH)<\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: rgb(102, 0, 204);font-family:arial;\" >It was great to match people&#8217;s voices with their blogs. All much as I imagined &#8211; except Paul Miller. I expected him to be brash and way too forward..something to do with the job title &#8220;Technology Evangelist&#8221;, I guess. He was very English and politely witty in a way that made me think of old BBC radio series like <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/My_Word%21\">My Word.<\/a> <span style=\"font-style: italic;\"><\/p>\n<p>Synchroniciity number one &#8211; A couple of hours ago, Paul Miller actually commented on my &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/librariansmatter.blogspot.com\/2006\/08\/they-do-mash-they-do.html\">They DO mash<\/a>&#8221; post. BTW, they received 18 entries in the Mashing Up the Library competition)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Some of the points raised that I found interesting (many of them by Karen Schneider, I think):<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: rgb(102, 0, 204);font-family:arial;\" >Tags and subject categories need not be mutually exclusive. There is merit in assigning both to a work (I&#8217;d presumed it was either \/or).<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: rgb(102, 0, 204);font-family:arial;\" >Faceting and sub faceting is not really possible with tagging, but is an advantage of traditional classification.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: rgb(102, 0, 204);font-family:arial;\" >Authority control is less important when you have large volumes of tags assigned to one work. So what if the same thing is tagged by 30 people as &#8220;felines&#8221;, another 20 as &#8220;cats&#8221;, and 5 more as &#8220;cat&#8221; &#8211; all provide access and there is built in &#8220;see also&#8221; referencing.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: rgb(102, 0, 204);font-family:arial;\" >This may be a Long Tail issue. Very popular items will have lots of tags, but subject catgories may be the only way to find items in the Long Tail.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: rgb(102, 0, 204);font-family:arial;\" >Some items are more findable with categories (French history for example), whereas some are better with tags, particulalry contemporary topics (like surferpunk).<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: rgb(102, 0, 204);font-family:arial;\" >Tagging probably works better when the tags others have assigned are offered, or somehow the system detects probable tags for the subject area. (a great project for someone, there).<br \/>\n<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: rgb(102, 0, 204);font-family:arial;\" >People need to feel ownership of the enterprise before they will tag (explains why they do it like mad on Library Thing, but  on Amazon, not so much)<br \/>\n<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: rgb(102, 0, 204);font-family:arial;\" >Casey Bisson is working on a WordPress plugin to allow users to assign their own tags to items in a WordPress blog.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic; color: rgb(102, 0, 204);font-family:arial;\" >Synchronicity number two &#8211; This afternoon, the admin group for the <a href=\"http:\/\/librariesinteract.info\">lint<\/a> blog (aka. <a href=\"http:\/\/librariesinteract.info\/2006\/08\/20\/whats-the-thali\/\">the thali<\/a>) has been discussing categories versus tagging for our blog. A tag cloud would look great and categories can get hard to maintain. You can&#8217;t have RSS feeds for tags, like you can for categories.<\/span><span style=\"color: rgb(102, 0, 204);font-family:arial;\" ><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\">Imported from the earlier version of my blog that used Blogger. Commenter&#8217;s email and URLS will not show up.<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last night, I listened to a podcast from from Talis of members of the Library 2.0 Gang discussing tagging, folksomies and libraries. You can Download the MP3 here. I&#8217;d already written this post before a couple of coincidental things happened. More on that later. 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