{"id":2069,"date":"2010-06-10T23:12:44","date_gmt":"2010-06-10T15:12:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/librariansmatter.com\/blog\/?p=2069"},"modified":"2010-06-10T23:12:44","modified_gmt":"2010-06-10T15:12:44","slug":"putting-yourself-out-there-in-context","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/librariansmatter.com\/blog\/2010\/06\/10\/putting-yourself-out-there-in-context\/","title":{"rendered":"Putting yourself out there in context&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This post isn&#8217;t really\u00a0 personal enough to fulfil my <a href=\"https:\/\/librariansmatter.com\/blog\/2010\/06\/08\/first-have-something-to-say\/\">week of personal blogging part of the 30 posts in 30 days challenge<\/a>. I promise that the next one will be about my cat.<\/p>\n<p>Yesterday, I tweeted something that touches on two great conversations that are going on in the <a href=\"http:\/\/librariesinteract.info\/2010\/06\/01\/30-blog-posts-in-30-days-challenge\/\">30 posts in 30 days<\/a> blogging community:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>@<a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/katiedavis\">katiedavis<\/a> FWIW  My problem with &#8220;Libs do Lady Gaga&#8221; was &#8211; nooo&#8230; don&#8217;t make them use  catalog, get ur good stuff out where they are looking<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It was in response to <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/katiedavis\">Kate<\/a>&#8216;s tweet a couple of minutes before,\u00a0 talking about how she was in a <a href=\"http:\/\/misssophiemac.blogspot.com\/2010\/06\/information-literacy-thoughts-of-day.html\">debate over at Sophie&#8217;s blog<\/a> about what was the &#8220;hub&#8221; of students&#8217; experiences, how the library can position itself there and what the future and role will be for the library. The <a href=\"http:\/\/misssophiemac.blogspot.com\/2010\/06\/information-literacy-thoughts-of-day.html?showComment=1276071561436#c4449722465110709646\">comment that she had just written<\/a> was:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>as new educational environments develop, the classroom is definitely not  the hub &#8211; especially because in some contexts, there is no classroom,  no physical coming together of the cohort.<\/p>\n<p>imho, i think  students&#8217; hub is the web, full stop. there are nodes scattered around  the web that represent particular places that they frequent &#8211; facebook,  their favourite search engine, twitter, wherever comes next &#8211; but  ultimately, i don&#8217;t know that students really care where on the web  services and resources are positioned. It&#8217;s about whether they can find  services and resources when they want them. the web is the hub &#8211; that&#8217;s  their environment.<\/p>\n<p>student&#8217;s couldn&#8217;t give a shit that libraries  buy millions of dollars worth of content in aggregator databases and  that it&#8217;s all authoritative and whatever else. they care that they can  find the information that they want and need, when they need it, in the  format they want it. in a student&#8217;s mind, if they do a google search,  they should find everything. and who&#8217;s to say that attitude is wrong?  rather than focus on directing students back behind our walls, why don&#8217;t  we figure out some way to expose all of our content through google? are  we focussing on the wrong problem here? yes, we want students to be  literate in their use of information, but surely the answer is not to  force them to use our clunky interfaces?&#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Kate&#8217;s comments immediately gave me an earworm of\u00a0 &#8220;you can use my catalog&#8221; &#8211; from the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=a_uzUh1VT98\">Librarians Do Gaga<\/a> clip, hence the tweet. (And another couple of tweets\u00a0 when someone admitted they hadn&#8217;t watched it &#8211; to the effect that I thought the librarians were cool, but wondered whether the message was one that we wanted to project)&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>And then here comes the other conversation connected to my tweet (and other peoples&#8217; comments)\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/frommelbin.blogspot.com\/2010\/06\/putting-yourself-out-there.html\">Putting yourself out there<\/a> . Mal talked about the Librarians Do Gaga clip in the context of librarians putting themselves out there, having fun, showing their voice and showing guts, initiative energy and imagination. Yep the clip showed all that. And yes, it was very worthwhile in that context. And I liked the production values too &#8211; great voice and a very good job  with the scenarios and the editing. And full of tongue-in-cheek references to stereotypes that showed they were aware of them and *playing*. And in that context I absolutely applaud what they did.<\/p>\n<p>My comment, though, was made in the context of a discussion about &#8220;forcing users to use our clunky interfaces&#8221;.\u00a0 In that context, the vision of (albeit cool, well intentioned and technically clever) librarians endlessly repeating &#8220;you can use my catalog&#8221;\u00a0 scares me. In the context of the discussion on Sophie&#8217;s post, some of the lyrics (which are <a href=\"http:\/\/www.athenasbanquet.net\/2010\/05\/librarians-do-gaga\">here at Sarah Wachter&#8217;s site <\/a>) do read like &#8220;your&#8217;e doing it wrong if you&#8217;re not using our tools, even though you won&#8217;t understand them without librarians&#8217; qualifications&#8221;&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>I think part of putting yourself out there is to do with letting go of the context in which you will be read&#8230; So my tweet could come off as ill-tempered grumpypantsing if read out of context, and the Gagabrarians could come off as my worst nightmare if read in another &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m also open to the possibility that I was just grumpypantsing. Anyhow, this Norwegian video about plagiarism below made me feel a whole lot less grumpypantsy, although it&#8217;s slickness is almost antiGagabrarain&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>Taking a leaf from two other 30 in 30 bloggers,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/moonflowerdragon.blogspot.com\/2007\/05\/how-to-cite-youtube-video-in-apa-style.html\"> moonflowerdragon<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/newgradlibrarian.wordpress.com\/2010\/06\/10\/miss-how-do-i-cite-a-youtube-video\/#comments\">newgradlibrarian<\/a>&#8216;, I&#8217;ll have a go at citing it&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Selvik, S. (Producer). (2010, May 27) Et Plagieringseventyr . Retrieved June 10, 2010 from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Mwbw9KF-ACY&amp;sns=em\">http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Mwbw9KF-ACY&amp;sns=em<\/a><\/p>\n<p><object classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" width=\"560\" height=\"340\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\" \/><param name=\"src\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/Mwbw9KF-ACY&amp;hl=en_GB&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x402061&amp;color2=0x9461ca\" \/><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value=\"true\" \/><\/object><\/p>\n<p>Post 11 of the \u00a0<a href=\"..\/2010\/06\/01\/30-posts-in-30-days\/\">30  posts in 30 days<\/a> challenge.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This post isn&#8217;t really\u00a0 personal enough to fulfil my week of personal blogging part of the 30 posts in 30 days challenge. I promise that the next one will be about my cat. 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