Comments on: Information Architecture in Australia – where are the librarians ? http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2008/08/27/information-architecture-in-australia-where-are-the-librarians/ It is and we do. Musing, enthusing, libraries, emerging technologies, balancing, being mum. Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:33:37 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Recent URLs tagged Taxonomy - Urlrecorder http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2008/08/27/information-architecture-in-australia-where-are-the-librarians/comment-page-1/#comment-54142 Recent URLs tagged Taxonomy - Urlrecorder Thu, 21 May 2009 17:46:08 +0000 http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2008/08/27/information-architecture-in-australia-where-are-the-librarians/#comment-54142 [...] recorded first by itsikson on 2009-04-14→ Information Architecture in Australia - where are the librarians ? [...] [...] recorded first by itsikson on 2009-04-14→ Information Architecture in Australia – where are the librarians ? [...]

]]> By: Donna Spencer Information Architecture workshops | Librarians Matter http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2008/08/27/information-architecture-in-australia-where-are-the-librarians/comment-page-1/#comment-48880 Donna Spencer Information Architecture workshops | Librarians Matter Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:27:03 +0000 http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2008/08/27/information-architecture-in-australia-where-are-the-librarians/#comment-48880 [...] I was very sad to be  missing Donna’s workshop at the Edge of the Web conference in Perth, ( Information Architecture in Austrlia - where are the librarians?  ) so I was very glad to catch up with it [...] [...] I was very sad to be  missing Donna’s workshop at the Edge of the Web conference in Perth, ( Information Architecture in Austrlia – where are the librarians?  ) so I was very glad to catch up with it [...]

]]> By: wellington http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2008/08/27/information-architecture-in-australia-where-are-the-librarians/comment-page-1/#comment-42659 wellington Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:19:42 +0000 http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2008/08/27/information-architecture-in-australia-where-are-the-librarians/#comment-42659 [...] information and design related schema to structure this. Waaay back in library school?? almost ahttp://librariansmatter.com/blog/2008/08/27/information-architecture-in-australia-where-are-the-libr...Wellington Town CouncilA local government website with local history and [...] [...] information and design related schema to structure this. Waaay back in library school?? almost ahttp://librariansmatter.com/blog/2008/08/27/information-architecture-in-australia-where-are-the-libr…Wellington Town CouncilA local government website with local history and [...]

]]> By: Gary Barber http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2008/08/27/information-architecture-in-australia-where-are-the-librarians/comment-page-1/#comment-42582 Gary Barber Sun, 14 Sep 2008 03:15:11 +0000 http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2008/08/27/information-architecture-in-australia-where-are-the-librarians/#comment-42582 Kathryn, you have discovered the secret world of IAs. Seriously everyone is on the money. All the IA's locally know and respect Librarians and I know will personally often bring them in on projects to help with various aspects as required, especially with information categorisation. However too many times, and I can contest this personally as an IA, the Librarians don't want to know. " Its the web it has not relevance" - I hear. This is a real shame. Do you think there is a way we can engage or get people out of this heads buried in the library routine that seems to almost common place. For the record there where a few Librarians from various Universities presenting at the previous years at Oz-IA. Question for you Kathryn why aren't you presenting! :) Kathryn, you have discovered the secret world of IAs. Seriously everyone is on the money. All the IA’s locally know and respect Librarians and I know will personally often bring them in on projects to help with various aspects as required, especially with information categorisation. However too many times, and I can contest this personally as an IA, the Librarians don’t want to know. ” Its the web it has not relevance” – I hear. This is a real shame.

Do you think there is a way we can engage or get people out of this heads buried in the library routine that seems to almost common place.

For the record there where a few Librarians from various Universities presenting at the previous years at Oz-IA.

Question for you Kathryn why aren’t you presenting! :)

]]> By: Semantic Library » Fundamental skills for the Semantic Web: Information Architecture http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2008/08/27/information-architecture-in-australia-where-are-the-librarians/comment-page-1/#comment-41682 Semantic Library » Fundamental skills for the Semantic Web: Information Architecture Mon, 01 Sep 2008 11:21:19 +0000 http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2008/08/27/information-architecture-in-australia-where-are-the-librarians/#comment-41682 [...] that may be important is Information Architecture. In a recent post, Kathryn Greenhill asks “Information Architecture in Australia - where are the librarians?” Librarians have skills in organising and classifying information, and creating [...] [...] that may be important is Information Architecture. In a recent post, Kathryn Greenhill asks “Information Architecture in Australia – where are the librarians?” Librarians have skills in organising and classifying information, and creating [...]

]]> By: Marie-Laure http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2008/08/27/information-architecture-in-australia-where-are-the-librarians/comment-page-1/#comment-41669 Marie-Laure Mon, 01 Sep 2008 02:10:43 +0000 http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2008/08/27/information-architecture-in-australia-where-are-the-librarians/#comment-41669 I agree with previous posts...I'm a librarian by background and have been involved in the web sphere for many years and find that Information Architects and most web people know about and respect librarians...it's librarians that don't know too much about the web design world outside of libraryland. I feel that many librarians don't make the relational jump in applying thesauri, indexes, taxonomies etc into web design. I agree with previous posts…I’m a librarian by background and have been involved in the web sphere for many years and find that Information Architects and most web people know about and respect librarians…it’s librarians that don’t know too much about the web design world outside of libraryland.

I feel that many librarians don’t make the relational jump in applying thesauri, indexes, taxonomies etc into web design.

]]> By: Rachel http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2008/08/27/information-architecture-in-australia-where-are-the-librarians/comment-page-1/#comment-41662 Rachel Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:44:49 +0000 http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2008/08/27/information-architecture-in-australia-where-are-the-librarians/#comment-41662 Hi Kathryn As the Master of Info Architecture is run by the School of Info Studies at CSU there is some overlap between the library courses. The other subjects are from the School of IT. See the course structure at http://www.csu.edu.au/courses/postgraduate/information_architecture/course_struct.html From what I can gather they is quite a few Librarians doing the course, mostly those that already have a technology focus to their current positions. As Donna said, Info Architects know and respect Librarians so I don't imagine I will encounter too many problems in the future. Also, information architecture is such a new profession and one that builds on other disciplines including information management, so it is natural that many Info Architects will have a background is something else. Hi Kathryn

As the Master of Info Architecture is run by the School of Info Studies at CSU there is some overlap between the library courses. The other subjects are from the School of IT. See the course structure at http://www.csu.edu.au/courses/postgraduate/information_architecture/course_struct.html
From what I can gather they is quite a few Librarians doing the course, mostly those that already have a technology focus to their current positions.

As Donna said, Info Architects know and respect Librarians so I don’t imagine I will encounter too many problems in the future. Also, information architecture is such a new profession and one that builds on other disciplines including information management, so it is natural that many Info Architects will have a background is something else.

]]> By: Eric Scheid http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2008/08/27/information-architecture-in-australia-where-are-the-librarians/comment-page-1/#comment-41489 Eric Scheid Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:35:39 +0000 http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2008/08/27/information-architecture-in-australia-where-are-the-librarians/#comment-41489 I'm more than happy to offer discount registrations to Oz-IA/2008 for professional librarians. Is there a professional association I should put on my contact list? Use code 'lib08' and you'll get $110 off the registration, please spread the word. Also, while I remember ... tell all your librarian friends to get on the announcement list for Oz-IA, that way they'll hear the call for papers for the 2009 conference - I'd love to hear more from librarians :-) http://www.oz-ia.org/2008/subscribe.shtml I’m more than happy to offer discount registrations to Oz-IA/2008 for professional librarians. Is there a professional association I should put on my contact list? Use code ‘lib08′ and you’ll get $110 off the registration, please spread the word.

Also, while I remember … tell all your librarian friends to get on the announcement list for Oz-IA, that way they’ll hear the call for papers for the 2009 conference – I’d love to hear more from librarians :-)

http://www.oz-ia.org/2008/subscribe.shtml

]]> By: Kathryn Greenhill http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2008/08/27/information-architecture-in-australia-where-are-the-librarians/comment-page-1/#comment-41487 Kathryn Greenhill Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:21:23 +0000 http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2008/08/27/information-architecture-in-australia-where-are-the-librarians/#comment-41487 Eric. Thanks for this. I must have seen Prue's session when I first saw the programme a couple of weeks back, as I was obviously thinking about thesauri when I wrote the post. Apologies to Prue for leaving it off. Rachel. Very heartening. Are there many other librarians doing the class? Is it similar to what you learned in library school? Do you think that when you finish, if you work in IA outside libraries, you will be perceived as someone who *is* or *was* a librarian ? Donna. I've very sorry that I won't be in WA for Edge of the Web, or else I would come for your workshop. I agree with your comment - I think librarians didn't morph or advertise our skills quickly enough to be visible where we needed to be - and we probably still have our heads stuck in our "bricks and mortar" more than is healthy if our profession will survive. Eric. Thanks for this. I must have seen Prue’s session when I first saw the programme a couple of weeks back, as I was obviously thinking about thesauri when I wrote the post. Apologies to Prue for leaving it off.

Rachel. Very heartening. Are there many other librarians doing the class? Is it similar to what you learned in library school? Do you think that when you finish, if you work in IA outside libraries, you will be perceived as someone who *is* or *was* a librarian ?

Donna. I’ve very sorry that I won’t be in WA for Edge of the Web, or else I would come for your workshop. I agree with your comment – I think librarians didn’t morph or advertise our skills quickly enough to be visible where we needed to be – and we probably still have our heads stuck in our “bricks and mortar” more than is healthy if our profession will survive.

]]> By: Donna Spencer http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2008/08/27/information-architecture-in-australia-where-are-the-librarians/comment-page-1/#comment-41485 Donna Spencer Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:02:25 +0000 http://librariansmatter.com/blog/2008/08/27/information-architecture-in-australia-where-are-the-librarians/#comment-41485 Good post Kathryn! Information architects do know about librarians. We really, really do. And we respect them (indexers too). So I wonder whether librarians know about information architecture ;) After all oz-ia is a submission-based community conference. If librarians aren't on the list, it's because they didn't submit a proposal... I think Margaret Ruwoldt is an ex-librarian too. Good post Kathryn!

Information architects do know about librarians. We really, really do. And we respect them (indexers too).

So I wonder whether librarians know about information architecture ;) After all oz-ia is a submission-based community conference. If librarians aren’t on the list, it’s because they didn’t submit a proposal…

I think Margaret Ruwoldt is an ex-librarian too.

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